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21.07.2020It addresses a method I use to reduce suction with the Fein. Open with the sanders, closed with the router, TS55 and general cleanup. Too much suction can make the sanders hop around.
The only thing I miss with the Fein is a flat top to store the systainers. Mark Tarhead. Brice Burrell Posts: Remodeling Contractor. I'm getting to this thread late and I really don't have a lot to add that hasn't already been said, but I not going to let that stop me.
I went with the Festool vacs, CT mini and The 22 is used most of the time in the shop with the boom arm. I know some people can't get past the price of the boom, but those of us that have one, we love it.
That is a good reason to get a CT22 or 33 alone. Now to Mark's question. I have the mini, got it before the midi came out, very portable, more so than the Fein. Years ago while carrying a shop vac down steps the hose got under my foot and down I went, to make it even worse the vac beat me up and the wall the whole down.
I've used the Fein and the long hose is both nice and a PIA. Noise, to me this is a non-issue, I always use hearing protection. I'd say the difference in the noise between the vacs really isn't all that great anyhow. So, I don't think I'd factor this in when deciding. The antistatic hose is a plus for Festool, but some people like the Fein hose non antistatic better, its longer and more flexible than the Festool standard AS hose.
As Anthony points out the Fein's capacity is deceiving, the turbo II and the midi are closer than Fein would have you believe. I don't know what the Fein's capacity is or how much the filter bag can hold before suction is reduced. Plus the Festool vac filter bags can be stuffed almost solid and you don't really notice loss of suction. The Festool disposable filter bags hold up well and can be reused. I can't comment on the quality of Fein's filter bags.
Three things give the Festools vacs a real edge. One, no adapters needed to fit all of the Festool tools. I don't want to screw around with an adapter to make them fit my tools, and I sure don't to get to the job and find out I didn't bring it. Second, being able to stack Systainers on top of the vac makes it easy to carry the vac and tool s around the job site.
Third, and this is a big deal to me, variable suction. This is a must to get the best results from your Festool sanders.
I know, the Fein hose can be altered to reduce the suction, but its not a dial control like on the Festool vac. I don't mind, but maybe this is a deal breaker to others. One more thing, the wheels on the Festool vacs can ware and possibly scratch floors. Festool sure rethink the wheels on all of their vacs. All in all, I'm very happy with my Festool vacs. In my mind there are no better portable vacuums for use with tools nad small clean ups than the CT Mini or Midi.
For vacuuming any amount of large heavy debris, I wouldn't recommend the Fein or the Festool vacs. If you are going to buy a Festool vac, get it with a tool and get the discount. Good luck with your decision, let us know what you buy and how it works out. I much prefer the fein for field work i.
Recently i purchased the workshop cleaning set, suffice it to say dust anywhere doesn't stand a chance walls and ceiling fans included nice enhancement. Now i had the fein before festool if i had to do it over i would give the mini strong consideration, but i'm cool with the fein.
Really, you can hardly blame the vac hose for trippng over it, that's like blaming my ski's for falling, careful on those darn stairs people get seriolusly injured and in fact expire.
If you filter bag is almost full do you have room to store the hose inside? There seems to be a lot of FUD fear, uncertainty, and doubt cast in the finest microsoft tradition.
Hi Brad, Good post. But I will take some images later today in the workshop to explain my points better. Edit - I mean for this comment to apply to Brads email that appears above this one. Must be a time zone thing. Basically, you just set the bag down in the canister till the sides click in place. On the Fein, the bag opening gasket needs to be pulled over the inlet. But still, with no HEPA option, my lungs say no - that's the real deal-breaker.
Everything else is somewhat mice nuts Forrest Anderson Posts: I have neither a Fein nor a Festool dust extractor, and instead I have a Vax wet and dry cylinder machine which looks rather like this one In fact, I have have three of them that I use with my TS55, router, sander and for household cleaning!
They have a variable speed control for the motor, and are very quiet especially at low speed, which I often use late at night so as not to disturb anyone. One thing I don't like about them is that they all have a high centre of gravity, and quite often they fall over if I pull on the hose. The high-mounted motor, the small castors, the diameter of the base, and the height of the hose entry are all factors in the "tipability" of these machines.
My question is therefore "how 'tippable' are the Fein and Festool extractors, particularly when pulled by the hose"? I also would like a festool, but I connected a DD kit to my ridgid shop vac, and the results are fantastic. I have a Festool CT26 that I use with my Domino , ets sander and trim router and it works quite well.
Hooked Fein Vacuum Vs Festool 60 up to a stationary tool I would go the cheaper route. I also have an old Fein vac that the tool triggered circut died on. IVac makes a switch box you can add to any vac to make it tool triggered. So that is a lower budget option. The biggest Ridgid vac has a noise suppressor you can add to the exhaust port, it helps but the noise is substantial anyways. You have not picked a cheap hobby to go into. I constantly shake my head at the cost of Festool products.
Then I bite the bullet and buy them, and I always end up happy that I did. They just work really well. They all work great. And I wish I would have bought both of them years ago. If you've seen those bag clips in grocery stores used to close potato chip bags, the following is the same concept. Use this contraption to clamp off the corner, remove it when you need to empty it. The bag is also used as a pre-filter.
Dumping it will reduce your bag usage but when you start loosing suction or the exhaust gets noticably hotter it is time for a new bag. I am getting a Dust Deputy to intercept most of the dust before it gets to the bag. I have 2 shop vac and a festool. I use the festool for sanding since I have the festool sander. I use a a small shop vac for my kpax.
And the large shop vac for my planer and jointer. Since you don't have a planer or jointer. I would save the money on the festool and get one of the machines. Yes In a word. I keep one plugit cord attached to my hose secured with a sleeve of cordura nylon I sewed into a sleeve, cord loosely spiraled around hose and a couple zip ties.
Leave tail long enough for different arrangement to tools and I just grab a tool, plug in vac and power and go!
Go to home depot and look at the Hoover GUV. It depends I also have an old Fein Turbo II that's been drug around and beat on for 10 years or so, still runs like a racehorse.
I tend to use it more than the CT26 with tools, save the Festool for cleaning up messes. The Festools are great vacs, take up minimal space and suck like nobody's business.
BUT : compared to the Fein they're noisy, the wheel arrangement makes them clunky to maneuver around, the bags are expensive and the vac itself costs a God-awful lot of money. But back to your original question: There's a HUGE difference in performance, longevity and usability between a high-end vac like the Festool or the Fein and your run-of-the-mill shop vac from the box store.
For me that difference is well worth the cost but YMMV. I got by for years with the big-box vacs but back then every tool in the shop didn't have a dust port, the vac ran during cleanup and that was about all.
Now that almost every power tool I use gets plugged into the vac I find that performance and noise levels are more important so I like the more expensive, quieter models. And the kids are out of college so I have more disposable income to afford such luxuries.
Definitely do a little research on this before you do. I have heard of folks frying the electronics in their CT vac due to static from the DD. If you're planning to get Festoys in addition to the vac you migt want to look hard at combo sets if they are available in your area. Love my CT26 and I'm still using my first bag after a half dozen emptyings of it. I'll eventually get the long life bag since its about the same price as a dust deputy kit and fits inside the vac without the hassle of finding a place for the cyclone.
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