Join Date Sep Posts On the surface the water evaporates and the glue drops all stick together. Post Nov 10, 13 T Post Nov 10, 15 T You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Functional Functional. Adhesivesit is a good study.

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You are going to get many opinions , I would want to see facts. There was a study in Guitarmaker and HHG was rated 3. HHG is a good glue and is one of the few that will reamalgamate or in plain words , reglue to itself. Dries hard and doesn't creep. It isn't easy to work with and takes some experience. Tite bond is a very good glue. This has been used for many years.

CF Martin used it on the production like. I have built using both glues and I cannot hear a difference. Many traditionalist like like it. Adhesives , it is a good study. I had a similar question regarding the sonic qualities of hide glue vs tite bond. As of now, Its on page 3. I misspelled Titebond as Tightbond, go figure. If you do a search for tightbond vs hideglue it should take you to it. Ted Hutson. Bruce Sexauer. HHG has damping statistics in the ball park of wood, Titebond does not.

When people say they can't hear the difference I am always surprised because my ears aren't what they once were, but it seems really obvious to me. Not just in my own work, but in that of Jim Merrill and in Martin as well, though they may have other mitigating factors I am unaware of. I hear it as a liveness, crispness, or sort of zingyness; words are inadequate in my mouth but it IS tangible to me.

Further, I prefer the HHG. The scientists can measure all they want, I am going with my feelings. Just to beat this dead horse some more I'm uncertain I could hear a difference between HHG and Titebond with everything else being equal. Has anyone tried making a similar guitar with each glue type with all else being the same other then the glue?

I've never heard anyone trying something like a double blind test with say 4 guitars made with similar components but 2 with HHG and 2 with Titebond. If there is a significant difference, a trained musician not me should be able to pick out the HHG guitars a good percentage of the time.

I suspect that the folks using HHG are simply using more care in their joints then folks using Titebond since they have to set the glue faster. Also HHG tends to be sticky so it actually holds the joints in place more once they are joined then Titebond which is more slippery while wet and has more time and inclination to slide out of place while you are putting clamps on.

Not sure about any acoustic properties of the glues themselves however the thickness of properly applied glue is very thin so I wouldn't think it would have a tremendous effect. Other folks here will swear on a stack of Bibles it does though so who knows. Alan Carruth. At this point it's all opinion, although one has to respect the opinions of folks with a lot of experience, of course.

Tim McKnight has done a couple of different experiments to look at properties of various glues, and the Guitarmaker article was one of them. I'm never entirely sure of how his measurements relate to the sound of guitars.

That article looked at hardness, but it's not entirely obvious to me that that's important, or, if it is, whether we want a 'hard' glue, or a 'soft' one, or one that more closely matches the hardness of wood. It's very difficult making 'identical' guitars, even using the same glue on both. I don't think you could say much based on a pair. Now, if you could make a whole lot of guitars of the same design, using wood with known properties, you might be able to say something from a statistical analysis.

I have to agree totally with Alan here. Often people that think they hear a difference is actual a inference. I am often asked if I use HHG. The guitars sound great , isn't that all that matters? I will agree that I do like the ability of this glue to adhere to itself.

For now I think it is too hard to tell scientifically what the tonal effects are. Those of us that build all have an opinion. To me the joinery is more important than what is holding it together. Like Alan said, it's all opinion. For what it's worth I just plain enjoy working with HHG. For the past years I've also been using HHG for constructing new guitars and prefer it in every way to the other glues except for the convenience factor although I couldn't even begin to tell you if there's some difference in the tone of the guitars.

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Log in Sign up. Cart 0 Check Out. Add to Cart. Cleanup Damp cloth while glue is wet. Scrape off and sand dried excess. Limitations Titebond Genuine Hide Glue is not intended for exterior use or where moisture is likely.

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